Xena E-Xine Volume 3, Issue 3 Lori Lake Interview Issue, XWP Uber Fanfic Bard

LORI LAKE ISSUE

Volume III, Issue 3 - June 26, 2002

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Today's issue includes:

1. Feature Article -- Interview with uber fanfic bard Lori L. Lake

2. Xena quote

3. Featured FanFic and Short Review -- "Gun Shy," "Under the Gun"

4. Xena News -- ROC Takes On The Bard; Xena Virtual Seasons Finales;

Breath of Fresh O2

5. Featured Links -- Lori Lake's site; Another recent interview

6. Xena: Warrior Princess Episode Guide

"Been There, Done That" -- "The Dirty Half Dozen"

7. What's Wrong With This Fiction? -- Commentary

8. Feedback

9. PRIVACY/NO SPAM POLICY!

10. Subscribe/Unsubscribe Information

11. Credits

12. Archives

13. DISCLAIMER

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1) Featured Article

Interview with uber fanfic bard Lori L. Lake

She has written two exceptional uber novels, "Gun Shy" and "Under

the

Gun" which have been published by RAP, about cops and partners Dez

and

Jay. And warm Love in a very cold climate.

XINE: Do you think that women who are buying new lesbian novels in

gay bookstores have any idea what Uber is?

LORI: I think a lot of readers have caught on, but don't care. There

are many readers who never watched X:WP who love to read and who are

reading our stuff. At this point, the publishing world hasn't seemed

to have accepted the

fact that the published Uber has re-energized lesbian novel writing,

and

not just romance, but also action, adventure, drama, and mystery. I

don't think the reviewers know what hit 'em. Many of us who started

out as Uber writers are expanding and writing non-Uber stuff, too.

first and fourth novels aren't really Uber, and my fifth

book, "Jumping Over My Head," isn't even a novel at all, but short

stories.

I can tell you right now that I have had a number of readers from

outside the Xenaverse write me by snail mail and email, and they had

no clue . . . although recently someone did write me to say that

they

had read about six or eight books from various

publishers, and they only recently had figured out why a lot of the

leads were tall, mysterious brunettes hanging out with blondes who

had

voracious appetites. I had a good chuckle over that. Some folks say

that

Rita Mae Brown's latest, "Alma Mater," is an "Uber-in-Disguise."

I'll have to decide that when I read it, but I would say that if

Rita

Mae has written an Uber, then we have to say Uber has hit the

mainstream.

And one more thing, some of the bestselling books in the nation are

from the presses that sprang originally from the Xenaverse. My

publisher, Renaissance Alliance Publishing, Inc., has enjoyed

significant sales of both Uber books and non-Uber books. My

novel "Ricochet in Time" has sold every bit as well as "Gun Shy." To

be honest, I think people just want a good story that is gripping

and

well-told, and it doesn't matter so much what the leads look like.

XINE: Some of the stories provide a few more clues than others...so

it may click in for someone who watched the show, but doesn't own a

computer.

Did you leave all of that wonderful dream imagery deja vu flashback

stuff intact in the published version? Or did the editors want to

dispense with that as extraneous?

LORI: I don't think I left much in that blatantly associates

the "Gun" stories with X:WP. If one is a big fan of X:WP and the

Uber genre, it is very easy to insert LL or ROC's mannerisms or

actions, but it is not at all necessary to have a satisfying read of

either "Gun Shy" or "Under The Gun." The funny thing is that as I

wrote "Gun Shy," back in 1998-99, I very quickly moved away from

seeing them as Uber characters. Dez

Reilly and Jaylynn Savage took on lives, personalities, and looks of

their own. When I think of them, I do not think at all of LL and

ROC.

Maybe that sounds odd, but it's true.

The online readers get to see the deja vu flashbacks in greater

detail and with much more definite relationship to X/G. I made it

more nebulous in the published version. It's still there

if you look, though.

XINE: Novel Number Five is another "Gun Shy" sequel, right? (She

asked hopefully.) Tell us about your other novels and when are you

going to get back to Dez and Jay?

LORI: People laugh when they hear this, but I am so sick of Dez and

Jay that I could scream. We are putting out a 2nd edition of "Gun

Shy" in a couple weeks with a really cool new cover that matches

with

the "Under The Gun" cover. So I took the opportunity to reread the

text and clean up any errant typos. It is being typeset once again

with a slightly different font, and between that and the

corrections,

the layout changed, which means that I have to proofread the pdf

file

once again and then later go

over the galleys. Meanwhile, we are finishing up edits on "Under The

Gun," and I'll have that pdf file and galleys for that, too. I've

read GS at least 15 times since I wrote it, and I've probably read

UTG about 10 times. I'm so sick of my girls after all this that I

totally need a break. That's why I wrote "Different Dress." I needed

something different to re-energize me, and then I finished some

literary short stories that I had been working on.

Book Six may possibly be "Isolation 2020," which is a post-

apocalyptic action/adventure about two women who meet by chance when

one of them is left for dead outside the other's safe underground

shelter. I set the novel along the Mississippi River area in

Minnesota in the year 2020. It's very tough to write. I started it

before 9/11, and after that, I didn't have the heart to deal with

life after a horrible disaster, so I put it down and worked

on "Different Dress" instead. I picked up "Isolation 2020" several

weeks ago, and parts of it are flowing. I am not so sure how long it

is going to

take, though, to get it done. It's the most difficult thing I have

written. When I have trouble with "Isolation 2020," I can work on:

*** "Missing Link," which is the first coming-out story that I have

written. It's actually calling to me lately. I may have to

put "Isolation 2020" aside because this story is begging to be told.

I am even dreaming about it.

*** "The Fourth Option," which is a family drama. In that one, I am

doing something I have never done before in a novel: write at length

from a male point-of-view. The main character's father has,

unexpectedly, turned out to be a force in his own right. He and his

daughter, Lainey, are dealing with Lainey's mother, who has early

stages of Alzheimers Disease. The daughter lost her children to her

ex-husband when she came out, and the way she is trying to refashion

her life is very interesting to me. The father is also surprisingly

fascinating. I didn't know I had a male father's voice in me.

*** "Knight Wind," a medieval knight story that may end up being

three parts. The more I think about it and make notes, the longer

and

more complex it gets. We'll see, though, when I write it.

*** "Rebecca Blaze," which is an adventure/drama about a young woman

recently released from prison. She met someone there who was

released

before her-and will she be waiting for Blaze when she gets out? Even

more troubling, will Blaze even make it home? Something happens on

the journey from the prison to "home" that nobody ever expected.

XINE: Have you attempted any X&G stories?

LORI: No, that I have not done. (I sound like Yoda: "The Force, it

is not in me"). My heart has been in the present. I don't know why

that is, but when I think of stories to write, I tend to see them

set

in modern day. I do know that the ideas for "Knight Wind" hit me out

of the blue, and if I do finish writing that Court/Knight/Medieval

piece, it will be something different from what I have done so far.

Perhaps it would prepare me for the X:WP setting-I don't know.

Just thinking about it, it occurs to me that I loved Missy Good's

Xena and Gabrielle and the world she created as much (maybe more)

than X:WP, the TV show. Missy's books profoundly affected the way I

looked at the TV show, and I found myself seeing X & G as Missy's

characters more than the show's creator's characters. I don't know

that is good or bad, but I have enjoyed Missy's incarnation of that

world so much that I never had any desire to try to do the same

thing.

XINE: Would you have written anyway, or is it the online Uber that

incited you to novelize?

LORI: I worked on "Ricochet In Time" from 1993 to sometime in late

1995, before either Xena: WP or Hercules was being brought to life.

edited "Ricochet" as best as I could, then started sending it

around.

I got rejection after rejection. Even the two presses for whom I

worked editing and proofreading didn't want it. Nobody was

encouraging, and faced with that response, I put it away feeling

quite dismoralized. I

didn't get online until early 1998, and I didn't find the Xenaverse

until summer 1998. I went nuts reading everything I could, and I saw

things that were superb as well as things that were good but needed

work, both of which inspired me. All that lesbian energy and drama

reinvigorated the writer in me so that I started to think maybe I

could

fit in somewhere in the XV.

I started "Gun Shy" in October 1998 and finished the first draft in

May 1999. When I finally sent the first section to MaryD, I had the

same sinking feeling I'd had each time the big and small GLBT

publishing houses had turned down "Ricochet In Time." Imagine my

surprise when MaryD wrote back very quickly and said, "Imagine

Oliver

Twist. All I

have to say is 'Please, sir, I want some more.' I want the rest of

this so I can post it."

It was an unforgettable feeling.

The Xenaverse had a huge affect on getting me back to writing, but I

suspect that I would have gone back sooner or later. I have always

thought of myself as a writer- maybe not an Author or Bard-but I've

always wanted to write.

XINE: Are there any other Uber characters besides X&G in your Ubers?

believe I sniffed out Joxer as a rookie. And Lyceus is Dez's partner

who was killed? Did you look for parallels to exploit?

LORI: When I started to write "Gun Shy," I wasn't very educated

about

the

whole flow and background of X:WP. I didn't even see seasons one

through

three until season four was about to start. (Yes, I am a Johnnyetta

come lately.) The first entire episodes my partner and I saw were

the

Quest/Destiny ones, with the famous kiss, and that's what hooked us.

We watched the first of those on one station on a weeknight, then

picked them up on the next two weekends on the WGN station. I

borrowed the first couple of episodes from someone, so I did see the

way the show

began, but I was missing lots of chunks of the story.

Later, we ordered the first season videos and watched them, but we

hadn't seen the second season or half of the third season when I

started "Gun Shy."

So when I started writing, I began with this question: if Xena and

Gabrielle were alive today, what would they be? The obvious answer

was cops. They're already the enforcers of the greatest good in the

TV series, and that's a lot of what police are supposed to do in

present time. Then I thought, "So, if they're cops, living in

Minnesota, how would that come about?" The rest worked out slowly

but surely over the subsequent nine months-practically like a birth.

XINE: I love the parallel of the opening scene to the opening of

the series. Very subtle, but effective.

LORI: You are the first person to ever tell me they noticed that.

That is the one and only scene that I can say I launched from

consciously. Jaylynn is as protective of Sara as Gab was of Lilla,

and when Dez encounters the attackers in the house that the

roommates

share, she is reeling from awful things in her past in much the same

way that Xena was. Later, after she saves the two women from the

rapists, Dez doesn't want Jaylynn to hang about or join up with her-

or the police-much like Xena discouraged Gabrielle from leaving

Potadeia and coming with her. So in some ways, the set up does

mirror

the start of the series. But from there, the story took on a life of

its own, pulling in characters and

feelings and problems from my own life.

Ryan Michaelson, Dez's partner who was shot, was definitely not

Lyceus. He was someone else in my own life who I had lost. Of

course,

I didn't realize that until much later. I was writing without clear

consciousness of what the heck I was doing. It wasn't

until months later, long after posting the whole story, that I

started to identify the themes in the book as being my own issues.

And was I ever embarrassed!

XINE: Did you get as anxious as we did waiting for the relationship

to progress?

LORI: Oh, absolutely. I had no idea how it was all going to play

out.

I desperately wanted a happy ending, but I truly had no idea if that

was what I was going to get. You have to remember that I don't write

in a linear manner, for the most part. I had all these sections and

scenes and events, and I kept trying to sew them together into a

reasonable

narrative, but it was really a challenge. Thank god for Buff, Erin,

and Joy, my three original beta readers.

XINE: You've said that many readers thought you must be a police

officer for such knowledgeable CSI and procedures; are X&G your

primary inspiration/motivation for Uberizing and modernizing the

partnership or did they come in handy as a way of springboarding the

cop story/romantic love story you'd always wanted to write? Or both?

LORI: Hmmm....I've always loved mysteries and cop stories, whether

TV, in movies, or in books. I was ten-years-old when I started

checking out Perry Mason books from the Greenwood Library in

Seattle.

I have jokingly said I have read over a thousand mystery/thriller

cop

books and seen three or four times more of the same on film and

television. So I think I had already absorbed a lot of the tone,

attitude, and ideas of that genre. With that kind of interest and

attention to the subject and genre, it seemed natural to have it be

part of that book.

I think that X&G were a springboard to the story that I never knew I

wanted to write. There's a lot going on inside this monkey mind of

mine, and if it hadn't been X:WP, I might have been incited to write

by any number of shows or books series. It's just that

X:WP had all that subtext-and later maintext-and it was so

incredibly

invigorating. It showed me that there was a whole WORLD of women-and

some men-out there who were absolutely dying to get their hands on

stories about "non-straight" women's lives and loves and issues. One

interesting detail, when I wrote the first chapter of "Gun Shy," I

was actually imagining Dez as a tall, blonde, blue-eyed, Nordic-

looking Minnesotan. But then, for some reason Jaylynn kept seeming

be blonde, too, and I was having trouble distinguishing between

them,

so Dez became the opposite of Jaylynn - in almost every way, too.

From that point of view, I guess you could say that the Uber

elements

unconsciously and consciously were affecting me.

XINE: Were you a "Cagney & Lacey" fan as well? How did you get your

background info for the police characters? Seems pretty realistic. I

remember an article in the Village Voice that noted the butch cop,

Lucy, on "Hill St. Blues," played by Betty Thomas only would make

any

kind of sense if she were portrayed as gay. "Gun Shy" would make a

great realistic pay cable cop show about real women under the gun.

LORI: Oh, yes! I loved Chris and MaryBeth and would love to get all

the episodes from that show on DVD. Didn't everyone want Chris

Cagney

to find herself a gutsy, reliable, loving woman? (Maybe Lucy from

Hill Street Blues!) I liked the relationship between the C & L

characters, the way they stuck together through thick and thin, even

when they really didn't understand-or sometimes even like!-each

other. From my memory, they are the first "real" women consistently

portrayed on TV for any length of time.

I researched police procedures a lot, I had a cop for a beta reader,

and like I said before, I've read a million books, both fiction and

non-fiction. I used the Internet to make connections, research gear

and tactics, and read old news stories about police actions. I made

friends with a St. Paul Police Sergeant and went with him on a ride-

along, which was very helpful. It also doesn't hurt that I work in a

prosecutor's office either (but not as a lawyer). Knowing a bit

about the legal aspects helped me, in particular, when I

wrote "Ricochet In Time."

Thanks for the compliment that "Gun Shy" would be a good TV show. I

liked that line that reviewer M.J. Lowe wrote in her Amazon.com

review: "(T)he novel reads like a season's worth of episodes from a

television show that you wish was on TV." Police

organizations, like the military or the mob or a funeral home or a

station or various other settings, can be a microcosm of the real

world. It's a very creative realm to write in. A lot can be done in

exploring relationships, conflicts, and alternate morals and ethics.

Hey, wouldn't it be great if this "All Gay/All The Time" idea for a

cable channel came

true? Wouldn't it be wonderful to have TV shows like X:WP and "Queer

As Folk" and original movies with GLBT themes made by, for, and

about

the non-straight world? I hope that it happens. I know I would

watch.

I would gladly pay to add that cable channel to my home network.

XINE: How does it feel to have it in book form, to actually hold

your

words in your hands between covers?

LORI: I suppose you want me to be honest, don't you? Well, it's

anticlimactic and, in some ways, stressful for me. I've worked so

long and hard on a book, and then by the time the box of my copies

arrives, I am always working on something newly exciting. I

receive the book, admire it, share it around, and am happy about it

for a while-and then I start fretting. Will anyone like it? Will

anyone buy it? Will reviewers hate it? Am I going to be able to get

the word out about it? Oh my God, what have I done?

I am, contrary to popular belief, quite a worrier.

XINE: Have you ever engaged in female bodybuilding like your Xena

Uber? Where did that sidelight come from?

LORI: Like a lot of my writing, which comes from experiences I have

had or from the experiences of people I know, the bodybuilding

interest came out of my own life. I spent about 14 months training

and cutting weight, readying for a bodybuilding competition. I

studied it, went to competitions, got a coach, and really got into

the sport. I was down to about 19% body fat, trimming nicely and

feeling good when it got very hard, even harder than it got for Dez.

It was almost depressing to cut calories like that, and I had

another

30 pounds to go. I couldn't face that much deprivation, and I was

driving my partner crazy. I was so happy to finally decide to bag

that idea. I ate half a pizza that night along with a chocolate bar

chaser. It was great.

So if I couldn't succeed at it, what better thing to do than give

over my frustrated failure to a character who could? Dez was able to

do what I could not, and I rather enjoyed it

vicariously.

There always seems to be something in each of my books that is a

vicarious pleasure. I haven't ridden a motorcycle, like Dani

in "Ricochet in Time," since I was 22. I've never been on a

pop/country musical tour like my characters in "Different Dress,"

but

I always

wished I had been born with enough talent for it. I've never had to

live underground, like the characters in "Isolation 2020," and I

hope

I never have to. If I haven't experienced a particular activity, or

if I can't do something myself, why not explore and learn about it

my imagination?

To this day, I believe that ultimately, Dez's bodybuilding

competition was a LOT more fun than a real one would have been for

me.

XINE: You present such presence of place that I actually feel cold

from your weather descriptions when I read your Ubers. How much does

the familiar setting contribute to the ease with which you relate

your tale?

LORI: When writers and teachers say, "Write what you know," I think

they are referring to things like setting and place and details

specific to one's own world. I transplanted to the Twin Cities 19

years ago after living in the Pacific NW for all my young life. It

took a bit of getting used to since I moved from a temperate climate

to one with the extremes

Minnesota has. It just worked into my writing without me really

forcing it. I wrote "Gun Shy" from late fall into early spring, so

some days, I just wrote exactly what I saw when I went outdoors or

looked out the window. To have the setting clear like that makes for

one less thing to fret about. I mean, a writer already has problems

with point of view and

character and narrative and tone and pacing and continuity and

several dozen other things . . . one less makes it slightly less

daunting.

XINE: What percentage inspiration is from the series/characters

(even

the actresses)... and how much from the other Uber?

LORI: Well, "Gun Shy" was inspired by X:WP over all, but not really

LL or ROC. Xena and Gabrielle are definitely the foremothers of Dez

and Jaylynn in many ways, but who LL or ROC are in real life didn't

influence my portrayal of my characters. I don't really know that

much about the two actresses, just their public personas, and it

doesn't seem that either of them have any of the issues that Dez

has.

I wrote "Under The Gun" after the final season ended-didn't I? Let's

see, I saw FIN during June of 2001. I take it back, I think I

finished the first draft of UTG around the same time that the series

ended. But nothing that was going on in the series influenced me, at

least not that I consciously know of. The set-up of the plot for

"Gun

Shy" dictated a lot of what happened in "Under The Gun." When you

write a sequel, you are sort of held hostage by what you have

already

written in the previous book. "Under The Gun" was much more

difficult

to write than "Gun Shy," and that's why it took me so long. I had

long periods of difficulty with it.

Other Uber stories probably influenced me more in the past than they

have in the last three years. I don't have nearly as much time to

read as I used to. Lately, I have had an incredible amount of

difficulty in balancing my life and writing. I just don't have

enough

time. I often have to make the choice between writing, reading,

emailing, or spending

time with my partner. In addition, I have a herniated disk in my low

back, so I can't sit at the computer for long periods of time (which

has wreaked havoc with me being able to keep up with Susan Meagher's

S.F. series!). I have not been keeping up with all the new stuff

coming out in the XV. Instead, I have been reading published works

that have come out of the XV, most recently finishing Vendetta by

Talaran. It's a lot easier to read a book-in the recliner, standing

up, on a bench, being able to move around-than to try to do it at

the

computer.

When I am writing, I tend not to read much, though. I am focused on

my characters and plot, and it's like I am underwater in SCUBA gear.

In order to focus on someone else's book, I have to come up for air,

get out of my own gear, and change my focus entirely, and then I

lose

my own direction.

Seems like most writing manuals give this direction: Write Every

Day,

rain or shine, problems or not, no matter what! Let me be the first

to say that anyone who does that must have servants, a lot of money,

and never lose their Muse. I, for one, am not that lucky.

XINE: You split up Jay and Dez as squad car partners for realism's

sake after they were outted as lovers--can you partner them again as

detectives?! What are the rules on that? Will you? Think about it.

LORI: I don't think Dez and Jay are going to ever be able to work as

shift partners. The police just do not allow it. Most police and

military organizations see too many problems both with adhering to

professional boundaries and with the parties staying objective.

Never

mind that after two cops have ridden together long enough, they

often

grow to be as much like married couple as their spouses are! Still,

real life married partners are usually separated for the good of the

team and unit.

I am not sure what I will have happen in book 3. I have been pulling

together actions scenes since I finished UTG, and I definitely have

enough job-related stuff to fill out the next story. There is no

reason they might not work in the same sector and back each other

up.

I could see Jaylynn riding with Crystal on a more permanent basis

and

Dez training in a series of rookies. That could make for some

interesting events.

We'll see what happens in my thinking as I let the two of them

percolate around for a while. They are rich characters, and sooner

later, I do want to focus on them again. When the time is right, the

story will start appearing to me.

XINE: "Gun Shy" is one of the few stories that I remember in great

detail, either fanfic or otherwise. A testament to the authoress.

Who

does the landlady represent? A compilation of characters?

LORI: That is very nice of you to say. Thank you. You're making me

blush.

When I started work on "Gun Shy"-or any of the other novels I've

worked on-I didn't know where the story was headed. I knew I wanted

to have a happy ending, but I couldn't guarantee it. I wrote scenes

and tried to figure out what the pattern was. At no time did I ever

sit down and correlate any of the characters with the show. There's

no Callisto or Joxer or Cyrene in my story-at least not that I

consciously planned.

Luella, Dez's landlady, represents someone from my own life who took

me into her heart at a time when I needed a bit of extra care and

nurture. My friend was an African-American woman originally from the

South who had never had children of her own. She tended to take in

all the lost lambs and odd ducks, much like Luella does. The Luella

character took on a life of her own, though, and suddenly she had

had

children and a house and a previous job at the telephone company and

Vanita for a sister and so on. I don't know where all that came

from,

but it didn't have anything to do with X:WP.

Here's one more interesting fact: Luella personally directed the

final scene of "Gun Shy." See, I am notorious for ending a book -

and

then not realizing for a while that I am not

done. I woke up from a dream one morning, and Luella was banging on

the ceiling hollering, "You forgot all about me, you fancy-ass

writer! You forgot me!" She said, "You put me in the end of the

book,

you fool. It's not complete otherwise." I woke up from that, turned

to my partner and through bleary eyes said, "You'll never guess

what..."

XINE: Do you find the Uber genre limiting in that the parameters of

the characters are pretty well pre-defined?

LORI: I'm not so sure that the parameters are so pre-defined

anymore.

Take Radclyffe, for instance, who I think we would all consider an

Uber author. From what I have read, her characters all take off from

the X/G descriptions and tend to develop their own personalities and

traits.

Readers and writers in the XV are an incredibly diverse and

intelligent bunch. From what I see, they want a story that is well-

told and well-written. I think I could post a novel like "Different

Dress," which is totally not Uber, and people would like it very

much.

The thing is, you can find the Uber qualities in every relationship.

It's not what people look like that defines it for me anymore. I

don't need a tall brunette with a tortured past or a short, gabby

blonde. But just look at some of the literature or TV or movies that

have come out, and you will see Uber characteristics all over them.

You mentioned Cagney & Lacey earlier. A lot of things about Chris

Cagney (troubled relationship with parent, rebellion against her

background, alcoholism, and a sexual assault) gave her the tortured

aspects of Xena. At the same time, Mary Beth has some of Gab's

qualities

and experiences. Their relationship, work troubles, and personal

lives pre-date X:WP, and yet, many of the same themes are examined

that show.

For me, the growing, changing relationship between the characters is

what made X:WP such a fascinating show, and adding the

subtext/maintext made it all the more compelling. Lesbians had

always, in the past, had to deal with such sub-subtext-Betty

Thomas's

role, for instance, which you also mentioned earlier. We all had to

imagine a world behind what we actually saw on the screen or on the

page. But to see two women characters obviously falling in love on a

TV show was revolutionary. What other show has ever shown two women

bound together so inextricably? It gives a gal the shivers!

XINE: Do you have aspirations to write for a larger audience? You

could.

LORI: The authors who have signed with publishers are already

writing

for a larger audience. The books are slowly but surely making their

way out into the bookstores, and the online stores are selling them

like crazy. There are many people who never watched the show who are

buying them.

When Naiad stopped publishing in 2000, they left a void. A few of

their authors went to the newly created Bella Books, and Bella has

published some fine novels, but they are not yet producing at the

volume that Naiad was. Bookstore owners tell me that they haven't

been getting in quite enough new books to satisfy the appetites of

all their readers, particularly the lesbian book buyers. There is a

gap there that our books fit into quite nicely, and many, many

bookstores all over the nation are starting to find that out.

I would love to write and market on a full-time basis and earn

enough

money to enable me to do that. The Xenaverse is large and generous,

but doesn't afford enough sales all by itself. So I am trying very

hard to get the word out about not just my book, but also about all

RAP books. I never want to lose the support of all my first readers.

It was the XV that encouraged me to write, and they continue to

support my efforts by sharing emails and information with me, buying

my books, and recommending my novels to others outside the XV.

Besides, I have made some of the best friends of my life here in

the XV. It's been wonderful.

XINE: How long do you think the Xenaverse will endure without the

show? Or was it superfluous all along???

LORI: Are you kidding? The XV is here to stay. It'll be a similar

phenomenon to the Trekkies. Even if there had never been any shows

after the original Star Trek, there would still be fans. In the same

way, fans in the XV are a force to be reckoned with, and they aren't

going away.

MaryD and Missy Good tell me that after the show ended, there was a

dip in fan response, and then slowly but surely it all built back

up,

and now they have more hits on their websites than ever before. I

believe that as long as X:WP is showing in syndicated

reruns all over the world, there will be new fans finding us. I know

if I were a young lesbian coming up, I would hunt for online

resources such as the XV. I remember when I was younger, I loved the

Perry Mason TV show. A bunch of us met almost every day for lunch in

college and watched it. At that point, the TV show was over 20 years

old.

I still like to catch it every so often on cable. What do you want

bet that kids not even born yet will be watching Xena in 10, 15, 25

years?

The XV was never superfluous. It is filled with incredible people

who

are thoroughly energized and excited by the themes and ideas that

X:WP brought out. Think about what Lucy said at Pasadena about the

fan feedback. She said something like "Long around the 8th episode,

when we figured out about the subtext, we started playing to

it." That doesn't happen much in TV. How many thousands of people

write to ask that various shows not be cancelled, and does it ever

help? Not usually, but in the case of X:WP, we were loud enough to

heard regarding subtext. What that tells me is that there is a

critical mass of women - and some men - out there who had enough

influence to steer a multi-million dollar TV show toward the themes

we were interested in.

When Lucy starred in the flagging musical, "Grease," on Broadway,

they ended up with sold-out crowd after sold-out crowd, which

revitalized the show's run. I'll say it again: Women from the XV are

a force to be reckoned with.

So back to your original question: will the XV endure? Yes, I

believe

it will. It will morph and change as people come and go, but I think

it will be around for a very long time and so will a hell of a lot

good stories and novels. Thanks for interviewing me. It's always a

pleasure to talk to you!

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2) Xena Quote

"C'mon. Our path is waiting, and

we've got a long way to go yet."

--Gabrielle to Xena

XWP Virtual Subtext Season 7 Finale -- "Fallen" -- by Rob Tapert and

Melissa

Good

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3) Featured Fan Fiction

Reviewed by bacchae2

These superb ubers were already reviewed by us in a previous issue

which we reprint here. Read other uber novels for graphic sex and

pedestrian novels for a run of the mill cop/mystery story. Wisely,

unlike many novelists, she does not make that the raison d'etre of

the piece. It's the relationship. What the series forgot in season

five. The subsidiary plot tangentially concerns a murder, the

everyday police work is well chronicled and researched. Character

driven stuff as fine as any other uber out there.

"Gun Shy"

by Lori L. Lake

http://www.ausxip.com/fanfiction/g/gunshy1.html

This one, a classic, had been recommended to me several times, but I

just hadn't gotten around to it (so many great ubers, so little time

online). I'm delighted that she is making this into a series. And it

would make a fabulous TV series as well like that other great police

duo, "Cagney and Lacey." It deserves the kind of more or less

'mainstream' notice and readership (actually, I'll wager the

readership

just might be larger on line) as that of someone like mystery

novelist

Sandra Scoppettone (one of the better lesbian 'mainstream' writers.)

love the romance, I love the characters...I really loved the

parallel

symmetry of them being partners who ride together, who meet each

other

in much the same way as did Xena and Gabrielle (Dez, short for

Desiree,

the daring cop saves Jay and the kid follows her to the police

academy)

and I especially love the fact that they, like Dar and Kerry, are

true

reincarnations who sometimes get flashes of their former existence.

Five ***** stars!

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"Under the Gun"

by Lori Lake

http://www.ausxip.com/fanfic15/under_the_gun.htm

The equally excellent sequel to "Gun Shy." Dez lost it when Jay was

injured by a bully and is on leave and finally taking some

counseling

for the PTSD she never dealt with from the death of her former

partner

(a Lyceus uber, I believe.) The new partners have been torn apart by

rumor and revenge on the job, but neither seems to know if they've

broken up in their now not so private life as well. It takes them an

agonizing while to figure it out too. Great setting, authenticity of

detail, and supporting cast of characters. The proposed gay channel

should pick this up for a series. In fact, someone should produce an

Uber Theater. It would never go wanting for great material.

Five ***** stars!

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Star Rating

***** The Full Chakram!

**** Foreplay

*** Two sais and a whimper

** Half staff better than none

* Kiss Joxer or Caligula, your choice

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4) Xena News

ROC Tackles Shakespeare

"The bard does The Bard"

by E.J. Rain

"The...wren/The most diminutive of birds, will fight." Act IV, scene

ii,

Macbeth

For someone who has harbored a passion for the Bard since childhood,

and

even before I could read, thanks to the great Max Rhinehart film of

his

famous stage version of "A Midsummer Night's Dream" starring James

Cagney as Bottom and Mickey Rooney as Puck the news that my favorite

actress would get to fulfill a wish of hers and mine came as a

great,

great pleasure. How did you fall in love with the Bard? For me it

began

with admiration for another actress who played the first woman on TV

who

could take care of herself, the favorite of my formative years,

Diana

Rigg's memorable Emma Peel on "The Avengers." Famous for her

Cordelia

and Viola. I knew she was RADA (it became my dream to attend that

greatest of acting schools) and RSC. I sent for their yearbook and

pored

over the dramatic photos of soon to be legendary actors. The Royal

Shakespeare Company's production of "Comedy of Errors" ran, in black

and

white (it was that long ago), on PBS and Dame Diana played the

female

lead, Adriana. A role I had to have for that reason alone and read

for

cold and got on my first day in the drama department in college.

(Which

degenerated into a misbegotten commedia delle arte whiteface

nightmare

during which I badly sprained my ankle in the middle of a

performance

and hobbled through the rest, but that's another story.) Dame Diana

also

appeared on TV in Peter Hall's lively RSC "Midsummer Night's Dream"

with

Helen Mirren and Judi Dench, three of the great actresses of the

latter

half century. And never getting enough of this favorite comedy that

know, literally, by heart, I got to see Peter Brooks' famed RSC

production on stage twice, one of the greatest of the century, which

featured a young Patrick Stewart and Ben Kingsley. Wasn't Missy's

Sappho

script supposed to be based upon it? How I would have loved that.

For the past year I've been faithfully reading a few pages a day

from

beloved copy of The Complete Works. The John Barrymore edition. A

charming, convenient faux leather bound, gilt-edged single volume

with

thinner than wafer pages, lightweight, solid, but flexible in the

hand

like a holy bible. Which to me it is. It's my favorite collected

works

edition, among many, that I own. I can see why Barrymore or any

actor

would've treasured having the Bard always to hand in such a compact

form. (There's an XWP joke in there, isn't there?) On my nightstand.

all begins with the love of the book, which is really the love of

words,

whether spoken by a bard or preserved upon a scroll. I had always

promised myself I would read them all, all the plays, not so

Herculean a

task. I am at the half-way mark. In the middle of a history ("A

little

touch of Harry in the night.") I started doing this to occupy my

troubled mind with something grand...that heightened

language...human

drama in high-relief because I sorely missed my favorite series

which

was also larger than life...and ended in tragedy.

And so...

I skipped ahead to (re)read "Macbeth." Shh. As a theater major I

know

the superstition. It must be referred to as "The Scottish Play" or

some

dire accident will befall the production. It's the same reason you

say

"break a leg" instead of "good luck" before a performance. Having

not

read the play since Sister Regina's english lit class in high school

where I read Lady M aloud (I was always called on to read the

androgynous-voiced, strong, anti-heroine women's roles-- Medea,

Phaedra)

and I found to my delight that, kids, it's not all that far removed

from

an episode of XWP. She'll feel right at home. Melodrama. Blood and

thunder. Even some gallows' humor.

Initially shocked at the seeming casting 'gainst type, how can we

even

wonder why she would leap to the challenge? She does, afterall, have

some experience in playing a complex character. Don't be thrown by

dear,

sweet, innocent Gabrielle, but think on cold, calculating,

manipulative

Hope. And even the tough battling bard of later years. We already

know

what a fine and versatile actress she is and how many surprising

colors

are on her palette. Though I would have gone through the entire

pantheon

and gladly given her Ophelia, Juliet, Rosalind, Viola, La Pucelle

(Joan

of Arc, described as an "amazon" and with a really big sword too),

even

Portia or Cleo, this is absolutely the last role I would have

thought

for her. Not because she's not capable of playing it, but, on the

contrary, my paltry imagination was not enlightened enough to

automatically embrace the concept. I have every confidence she can

not

only do it justice, but make it truly memorable.

And what a setting. Makes one think somehow of that playwright

in "When

Fates Collide" writing and staging her great epic works by the sea.

NYSF

West. Nothing beats Shakespeare under the stars. We used to picnic

all

day in Central Park for a free Public Theater production starring

Meryl

Streep or Raul Julia or Kevin Kline or William Hurt. This is very

smart

casting on their part and they should reap the benefits of it. Now,

if I

were her I'd check out that all-female Shakespeare company in L.A.

always wanted to play the great male roles just like Sarah Bernhardt

and

Eva Le Gallienne.) Not all Xena fans are loutish cultural

philistines.

Even that large SCA contingent tend to be W.S. fans, especially of

that

particular play. I'm not saying, however, that they don't run the

risk

of bringing a whole new fandom to the Bard. And which bard is which

this instance? If truly ambitious a new company could undertake The

Wars

of the Roses (which most americans know only as a dark comedy about

divorce), I doubt that epic undertaking (all the histories

from "Richard

II" to "Richard III," with three Henrys in between, in rep) has ever

been attempted in the U.S.? That would be a 'ratings stunt'

comparable

to staging the entire Ring Cycle at Bayreuth.

Lady M is first seen, in effect, reading a scroll. ("My dearest

partner

of greatness," she reads in the letter from her warrior... sigh.)

And,

lastly, attempting to wash the blood off her hands. This, among

other

things, may provoke a lump in the throat. XWP fans may find

themselves,

though, shuddering outright at an ending in which the anti-hero is

beheaded. Murder, betrayal, ambition, lust, and greed for power.

Just

another day at the beach. Resonant. For Xena fans. To say the least.

Ghosts, witches, damnation. The three Weird sisters are no different

from the banshees, Fates, or Furies. In fact they seem to have been

based upon the Norns, or Norse saga version of The Fates. Hecate is

just

another name for Alti. Some impossibly famous lines that ROC has to

wrap

her tongue around: "Screw your courage to the sticking place,"

"What's

done cannot be undone," and the ever popular bad Fido joke, "Out

damn

Spot." And then there's the wonderful line that Hitchcock always

used

a crowded elevator, "Who would have thought the old man to have had

much blood in him?" It is her guilt, finally, over the death of true

innocents, the death of children that drives her to madness and

suicide.

Because her own babes have died in infancy, to which she seems to

allude

at one point?

It is one of the shortest plays, the shortest tragedy, I believe.

And

that seems to be due to editing for presentation at court. And this

the only copy of the play that comes down to us. Unfortunate. Lady

M's

part, especially in this instance, could only benefit us by being

longer. What we have is the abridged or Reader's Digest version. A

shame. But it is concise, fast and furious, and not over-long or

tedious.

"Blood will have blood." Where have I heard that before? And it's

all

about a big dumb warrior controlled by his wife. (And, sadly, I

can't

help thinking what an effective Macbeth Kevin Smith would've made.)

could conceive doing it in a modern version as a corporate takeover

which is exactly how it plays. The witches, caterers from hell; Lady

with blood red fingernails, egging hubby on to get that promotion by

any

means necessary.

And ROC looks every inch the serious young actress with her dark

hair,

stunning. Wonder if LL will be jealous, if she's always wanted to do

Lady M? Nah. She probably prefers the comedies. Imagine taming that

shrew. Never in a million years.

I still remember the "tomorrow" speech by heart. Macbeth's two great

soliloquys give us two classic Star Trek titles. Not to mention a

Faulkner novel, a true crime and a Ray Bradbury classic in a later

scene. And did you know Autolycus makes an appearance in

Shakespeare?

The thief of Greek mythology is comic relief, as always, in "The

Winter's Tale."

Wish fervently I lived in CA. I'd turn into a 'camp' follower of the

bard's band drifting from Point to Polliwog, park to park like some

flotsamian baglady reciting W.S. under my breath to see my other

favorite bard tackle one of the greatest stage roles of all time.

You

go, girl.

"Come, put my armor on. Give me my staff." Macbeth, Act V, sc. iii

*************************

Renée O'Connor news

From Creation Entertainment

Shakespeare by the Sea is free -- you do not need a ticket. Seating

available on a first come, first served basis. People begin showing

an hour or so before the show begins to get seats. Beach chairs,

blankets and warm, layered clothing are recommended. Point Fermin

has

bench seating, however many people bring their own chairs -- all

tour

locations are open grassy areas without seats - so definitely bring

your

own chairs or be prepared to sit on the ground. Picnics are welcome.

Renee will be performing Lady Macbeth in the Shakespeare by the Sea

production of Macbeth. It starts June 27 and will run for five weeks

San Pedro (Point Fermin Park). Then it will go on a tour of the

beach

cities of Southern California until August 16. You will find the

schedule, as it becomes available, on their web page at

http://www.shakespearebythesea.org/calendar.html

All performances have a pre-show 1/2 hour prior to the performance.

Photography/Taping is not permitted during performances -- you may

have

a chance for photos after the show - but that's not guaranteed.

Renee's dates/times/locations:

6/27 (opening night), 28, 29 -- San Pedro, Pt. Fermin -- 8 PM

7/5, 12, 18, 20 San Pedro, Pt. Fermin -- 8 PM

7/26 -- Hermosa Beach, Valley Park -- 7 PM

8/1, 3 -- Wilmington, Banning Park -- 7 PM

8/9 -- Manhattan Beach, Polliwog Park -- 7 PM

8/16 (closing night) -- San Pedro, Pt. Fermin -- 7 PM

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The Virtual Seasons Have Their Finales

No cliffhangers.

The Finale We Deserved!

Finally.

Rob allows Missy to redress a wrong.

Both Virtual Seasons ended in amazon arcs wherein Xena discovers the

New

World and gives the Amazon its name. (What are the odds?!) And we

wondered how that happened, huh? Xena is the short answer to all

things.

"Fallen"

Story by Rob Tapert/Script by Melissa Good

http://xenamultimedia.com/XWPSubtextS7/S7E19/S7-E19-Teaser.htm

This script reads like the finale we all wanted (at least where the

X&G

relationship is concerned, the extraneous plot needed some work,

would

Lila and Sarah, both saved by Xena, really do that?! and the bard's

sister even says she knew long ago that Xena was Gab's home)...I

mean...it reads like A finale (that could've been THE finale) and

it's a

happy ending! And Missy's Disclaimer here leaves absolutely no doubt

that that's what it is too. She gently bites the hand that led her

without remorse. Don't know if she rewrote any for this posting, but

this is the full original script, it's like they had an alternate

ending

ready to go, or, perhaps, just an ending to season six if they

thought

at the time they were going to do another season (pretty hard though

Lucy was going to leave anyway). Then again...wasn't the Japanese ep

planned as a future tv-movie at one point? But I've always thought

that

Rob offed Xena just to spite the studio!

Since Missy says it's an official (she even gives the number!)

unproduced script I'm quite sure it was written and handed in as to

Rob's story concept. But where were they gonna place it? Instead of

"Many Happy Returns?" An attempted Missy replacement script for the

scrapped Sappho ep (which I think made it into pre-production)?

This was the interaction we wanted to see at the end of the series

between X&G and to the ultimate point to which their characters'

development had arrived. Yin/Yang come full circle and, literally,

bringing them back, at fade-out, to the exact spot at which they

first

met. Now, that is true journey's end. To paraphrase: 'They shall not

cease from exploration, and the end of all their exploring shall be

arrive where they started and know the place for the first time.'

And

know exactly who they are to each other and to themselves and that

they'd do it all over again knowing all they know.

Anyhoo...they literally walk off into the sunset together holding

hands.

X calls G "my love," G refers to "our love," and they kiss on the

mouth

(though, once again, one of them is unconscious! GEEZ! People!) Did

Missy rewrite this? She doesn't say it's based on a script, she says

IS the script...which means SHE had them calling each other "my

love,"

"our love," and kissing on the mouth, as well as her usual feeling

the

bond stuff. No wonder they couldn't do it!

Wonder if this really was an alternative ending...though it seemed

Rob

always had the Japanese arcana in mind. It certainly reads like the

finale we all really wanted to see instead of what we got. That

sunset

the way we wanted to experience it. Wonder how many other unproduced

scripts Missy worked on besides the Sappho one and I assume she got

paid

regardless if it was produced or not?

Xena facing her fears and her sins (of the past) and choosing

life...and

Gabrielle.

That's the only atoning Xena ever had to do for her sins, be willing

give her life, especially for Gab, but never actually die.

And perhaps "Full Circle" would've been a better title.

Are they gonna do this all over again come September? Or they could

leave it right there and I'd be satisfied and feel vindicated. TN,

Sue,

and Missy (et al) as primary writers--and what a remarkable

accomplishment that is in itself--gave us a season better, overall,

than

Season Five. Three women who did a better job than many Hollywood

writers/producers. They should be very proud of the achievement as

are of them. They deserve our kudos and applause and heartfelt

thanks.

Now I wish they'd put up the Sappho script!

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A Breath of Fresh O2

Finally Oxygen (the neo network) wised up (sorta) and are visibly

employing the WP as a major attention getting attraction to their

fledgling cable/satellite channel. We'd been thinking all along that

they needed her as a more visible symbol to spice up their on air

promos. The ad which features an endless array of beauty contestant

bimbos is pretty hard to sit through (and I didn't at first) until I

finally caught the pay-off for their punchline re typical female

stereotypes. To rebut that charge we are suddenly awakened by the

glorious sight of Xena in full battle mode as a pugilistic, yet

pulchritudinous image of womankind that, indeed, changed a lot of

miss-perceptions. This was just the breather of fresh oxygen the

doctor

(and she is in) ordered to draw some attention (if not actual

attendance) to the barely respiring network for women. I saw this ad

during every damn commercial break on Larry King one night when

Jodie

Foster was the sole guest (for "Panic Room") and got the breath

knocked

out of me every single time by the still literally breath-taking

sight

of my beloved warrior. Just breathe. Deeply.

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5) Featured Links

Lori L. Lake's Webpage

http://www.lorillake.com/

A handsome site that will give you all the info you need on ordering

her

uber and non-uber novels, merchandise, etc.

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Another Recent Interview with the Author

http://www.katlynfic.com/Authors/LoriLake.htm

Delightful interview, asks all the questions we didn't. (And I find

share a love for Ray Bradbury.)

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6) Xena: Warrior Princess Episode Guide

by Bacchae2

Episode Forty-eight "Been There, Done That" and Episode Forty-

nine "The

Dirty Half Dozen"

"Been There, Done That"

Best comedy ep. Great slapstick. Not overdone...for a change. Joxer

dies, is burned and returns the 'same' morning--all in the teaser!

Group

hug. What a clever script. Even though it's 'based' on "Groundhog

Day"

it is still very fresh and exuberantly well-done. Favorite comic

moments: when Xena rants on and the camera slow pans to Gab and Jox

bound and gagged and when Xena kills Jox with her chakram and goes

back

to sleep and Gab freaks. Xena throws a mean tantrum. This ep makes

laugh out loud every time. Ad infinitum.

Subtext Rating:

Carpe Diem...

Sieze the day. Literally.

The 'cameo' of Xena lying with Gabrielle in her arms...to die for.

The

sweetly guilty expression on Gabrielle's face when Joxer asks Xena

that's a hickey. They should have made as big a deal of Gab's

'death'

well even though Xena knows time, by this time, will reverse itself

the morning. We hear her mourn at the pyre. But we should have seen

and felt her pain. Their reunion is cute...though Gab has no earthly

idea what they are celebrating. She doesn't seem to mind. And Joxer

interrupts again. Argh.

"The Dirty Half Dozen"

Steel. Steal. The Magnificent 7 ride. The motley six or so, that is.

Gab

& Xena look cool in capes. Ares gets off on playing war games. ROC

beautiful by firelight.

Subtext Rating:

The Changer and the Changed.

"Gabrielle is a good teacher."

Gab asks, "Am I what you made me?" What would have happened if

they'd

met earlier... That's one to ponder. They've both changed each other

much, even at this point. Gab says, "I'm not a little girl." Xena

muses,

if I had met her before, maybe... "Question is, who would I be

without

you?" Ah, thank you, Xena. That was the thoughtful warrior I fell in

love with.

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7) Commentary

"What's Wrong With This Fiction?"

Ya ever notice how one of a lesbian couple (especially a potentially

happy ever after lesbian couple) just seems to always have to die?

This

not only sucks big time, but it happens to be so old-fashioned it

creaks

out loud and is ill-conceived in mirroring the same-old/same-old

didactic, moralistic edict from, apparently, on high (TPTB) that

dictates the girls can only kiss with passion if a death will occur

shortly. This, like totally, bums me out, man. I'm prompted to cry

foul

yet again after the painful season-ending arc on "Buffy" brutally

killed

off Willow's girlfriend and fellow Wiccan Tara. What's with these

producers anyway? You'd think Joss would've had the smarts to learn

from

Rob's debacle. And adding injury to insult it turns out that his

co-producer, Marti Noxon, who oversaw most of this mostly so-so

Buffy

season which played like a teen soap (she's actually referred to it,

disparagingly in my mind, as "Party of Five with monsters") has two

mommies and should, presumably, know better! They need to discipline

the

child for this. First Xena, now poor little Tara, can Dr. Kerry

Weaver's

firewoman lover on "ER" be far behind? At least maybe they'll get

some

bathetic farewell scene while she's dying from some heroic deed in

the

emergency room. This over-rated drama is just as melodramatic as

Xena

Buffy afterall.

So...the more things change the more they stay the same. Yeah, you

know

the drill. Poor, wretched, unloved (at least not 'that' way) Martha

"The Children's Hour" hangs herself after she's forced out of the

closet

and can no longer be just a loving 'sister' to her best friend

Karen.

The joyful, budding schoolgirl Manuela in the early German film

classic

(a role played on the british stage by a 14 yr. old Jessica Tandy)

"Madchen in Uniform" who has a crush on her beautiful, caring

teacher

must leap to her didactic demise after she is outted by a glass of

wine

to celebrate the already drunken success she feels for her

triumphant

turn in a trouser role assayed at an all girls' school. At least

that's

the way it had to play in America. There is a much more satisfying

alternate ending in which she is rescued by her schoolmates before

she

takes the plunge. Even in novels written by lesbians from the

classic

"Well of Loneliness" to the recent, lyrical first novel, "Fall On

Your

Knees" (an Oprah Book Club selection!) written by the actress who

played

one of the lesbians in the charming Canadian film, "I've Heard the

Mermaids Singing," a happy ending is just not in the cards for our

girls. The only walk into the sunset I can remember is "Desert

Hearts."

When will love be allowed to conquer all where women loving women

are

concerned? Thank Aphrodite for Uber!!!!!!!! Bless you Bards.

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8) Feedback

Dear Lady Adell,

Thank you very much for the kind comments of my stories, I am ever

your debt. The stories are a part of me, yet the plot elements of

several of them had slipped my mind until you reviewed them. I

reread

"Xenaquest I&II" for the first time in several years. Painfully

awkward

in some places, the fun I had in writing them is still evident. The

relationship between Xena and Gabrielle took on a life of its own,

should have. Their love will live on in fan literature, and I had a

blast at having a very small part of it. Take care, -John (Ogami)

{Ed. Note - We are so tickled we actually inspired a bard to read

his

own work.}

Dear Jo.

Well well...these xines just keep getting better and better. Very

well

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